Depending on which country you are from, it may seem like discrimination or fair system upholding diversity.
If you are from India, you would hate it. There are truckloads of programmers in that country. But if you are the only graduate with programming skills from a country like timbaktoo (?), you would love it. You also got a shot at american dream.
This EB quota system reminds me of Caste reservation system in India. To some that is fair, to others, it is unfair. Depends on which side of the fence you are.
if you read the history of immigration this country you will see that such measures are typically taken with restriction in mind not diversity. Diversity is the nice sounding cloak. there is a definite fear that FB will bring in many mexican migrants ( "chain migration") and the country quota holds that back imho. you think it's because of indian programmers? it was made long before those existed. remember we are a minuscule number- don't feel so important- the programmers are about 2% of all immigrants. 11% is all EB, half are families, half again are techies- not all those are programmers. do the math.
also remember that 50,000 Gc are given a year by lottery for "diversity". as a result more bangladeshis get Gc in a year than indians on EB. so why do we need the country quota in EB again?
to the person bringing up caste system and fences, here is my proposal.
i am a physician, i am being held behind hoardes of techies who can easily have PD's much before mine since i am training and working longer and the J1 holds me back. 12 years here and no where in the line...so i should get a fast track too. let's have a cap for the techies...hey it looks great from my side of the fence...i'm sure you will agree that i should be pushed up the line.
either it's wrong or right. the caste system is wrong, from every side of the fence. it may benefit some and hurt others. but it's wrong, wrong and wrong.
same for this country quota. sure it helps some, and looks good from "their side of the fence". that does not change the fact that it is wrong.
none of this is an argument for a legal approach. just responding to stuff here. the "colonizing" comment was really something. have the author been visiting FAIR??
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Nixstor: I know how responsible person you are. You must have given lot of thought to this. Even if 20-30% people buy house, that reduces the no of applicants waiting for GC which will make it faster for the people that do not want to buy now for various reasons.
I fully support this idea. Thanks for bringing such good and justified proposal.
Sure. If its done in a respectable manner its fine with some humor and jokes added and officer can do his part to diffuse the frustration. But CBP officers in US are rude and its well known fact.
Indian customs officers are also no angels, Usually there is no profiling in India. I never ever faced a single question or treatment that was different than others. Nor did I see anyone being singled out.
When you frisk abdul kalam when you know he is ex president. When you frisk george fernandes when he has diplomatic passport , when you detain SRK when others are vouching for it, when you handcuff Gates. Its profiling. Once in a while incident that is done in respectable humorous way can be forgotten, not the rude ones. I am sure officer was damn rude to piss off srk.
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NEWARK, N.J. - A business owner from India was sentenced Monday to 20 months in federal prison for helping hundreds of immigrants live and work illegally in New Jersey and elsewhere in the United States.
Narendra Mandalapa must also forfeit $5.7 million and two luxury cars - deemed to be proceeds of his crimes - and pay a $25,000 fine, under the penalties imposed by U.S. District Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise.
Mandalapa, 36, was owner and president of Cybersoftec Inc., a business consulting firm based in Edison in 2004 and 2005.
Cybersoftec also claimed offices in Portland, Maine, and
in New Hampshire, and obtained more than 150 certifications in the two states for temporary work visas in 2004 and 2005 through the U.S. Department of Labor, the Portland Press Herald reported.
Cybersoftec, according to Maine Department of Labor records, also filed about 50 labor-certification applications in Maine for green cards, which allow foreigners to live and work in the U.S. indefinitely.
Mandalapa had pleaded guilty to immigration fraud, admitting that he got up to $22,000 from immigrants to file fraudulent documents. Those included I-140s, which are petitions for an alien worker to become a lawful U.S. resident.
Mandalapa has been in custody since his arrest Nov. 3, 2005. His lawyer, Bruno Bier, said Mandalapa will get credit for his 14 months of confinement and will spend about six months in prison before he will likely face deportation proceedings.
None of the indictments on 29 counts of immigration fraud, money laundering and mail fraud related to his applications for green cards were linked to activities in Maine. Mandalapa pleaded guilty to one count as part of a plea bargain.
Bier said Cybersoftec is no longer in business.
Our message to Narendra "Nick" Mandalapa : Enjoy prison. Maybe on the inside, you can sell contraband items just like on the outside you sold approved labor certs.
Like someone said on the news article thread, the only difference between this guy and other desi companies (Desi means "of Indian origin") is that this guy got caught, while hundreds of other companies still sell approved labor certs with earlier priority dates.
And all this illegal trade is much to the delight of AILA, who is pushing hard to keep labor substitution alive.
What's in it for AILA? : Additional business of labor substitution. Now, for a few extra pennies, AILA would not hesitate to screw thousands of GC applicants waiting in line and enable the "Cutting in line" that happens due to labor substitution.
So if you think AILA is a friend of immigrants (legal or illegal), think again. Its a friend of $$$. And there is nothing wrong with that. Everyone pursues self-interest. That is what AILA is doing. But dont misunderstand AILA as a champion of immigrants (legal or illegal). It represents immigration lawyers, not immigrants. On a rare occassion, the interests overlap, and that's good. But on many issues, AILA has a history of being very very employer friendly as far as immigration law is concerned, even if it comes at the cost of employees(immigrants).
1. Visa recapture.
2. Removing spouses from EB count or excluding spouses from recaptured visas atleast
3. No country caps for recaptured visas
4. Raising the country cap to say 12-15% per country.
5. Allowing 485 when PD is not current.
6. Skill based points system etc.
We should be for reform which is transparent and fair to all sides. Putting all eggs in one basket may not help. By having multi pronged agenda , we will get atleast something.
I worked for a canadian company in US and now would be working for a US company in Canada. This is globalization. True Globalization. Any for those whiners belonging to IEEE and its propoganda machine, I would like to mention that I drew salries which were above way above the norm. I am sure I would be drawing more than 2 of his programmers combined. Ron- ask your folks to learn to compete and update their skills. They probably studied studied 'history of mathematics' as a math subject in high school instead of calculus. They were happy that they had the coolest Nintendo games while many like me were burning the midnight old figuring out data structures at Berkeley.
I hope Berney Sanders and his club of the CIR days are hearing the developments. Berney, fix the broken education system for job protection rather than building fences to prevent legal workers to come to this gifted country. More companies will leave for nearshore if the mess continues. Fix the system by closing the H1B loopholes that a small percentage of companies are exploiting. Don't bad mouth the H1B system which has given you so much talent that you could have never groomed, the talented individuals who have contributed to the society, social security system and what not. Patch the holes in the fence, do not erect a higher fence for which people need to pay $ 5000 to cross. And by the way if you have the inclination and the time- fix the broken LEGAL High Skilled immigration system.
You need not give up your American Dream. Once you get your Canadian Citizenship, you can work in US indefinetly with TN visa.
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We can have a lawsuit saying, cap both visa types or cap none.
If ever this law suit come before a judge, we can potentially win by creating a list of all the lost oppurtunities, lost time and money etc, basically building a human story around the restriction.
Other than that, I don't think per country qouta violates the constitution.
Anyways, I am enjoying this thread, very logical arguments in each reply.
One company offered me pre-approved labour, with PD as Dec-2004. They are mentioning that I can file i140 immediately as soon as
my H1-B transffered to new company.
I have been hearing the news about LC substitution elimination from DOL.
Has they announced any dead line for filing the Labor Substitutions ? or expecting soon.
Has they announced any validity period on approved LCs to regularise this process?
If yes - How is it going to effect my case?
Is it better to take this LC( all the criteria required for sub is matched) or apply a new labour under PERM process.
Currently I am in my first H1-B and valid till Oct 2007.
Please need experts advice in this regard.
there should not be any problem for you. but it is discouraged to go for labor substitution as it is literally jumping the line. there are so many people waiting for their LC and someone came in line just now taking pd from 2004 or before will definately pisses them off. otherwise, you should be okay to take that one.
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BTW here is their "general info" email address
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Done as requested. I want to understand how this works - what will happen if we have a large number of people dig it?
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Btw: My name includes a 'Shiva' and Not a 'Khan'.
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I am also suffering quite long (7+ year) in process and don't want any one go through same pain because i suffered.
Work for Goal and live a good life. It will not come back.
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Even that Angelina seemed to be crazy about USA. If S/he would be happy about everything in Canada why the hell s/he even visit immigration related boards meant for USA?
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House Immigration Sub-Committee is planning on mark up Congresswoman Lofgren's recapture bill tomorrow (Thursday) afternoon in her subcommittee. This is an extremely IMPORTANT development. We are hoping that an agreement reached such that there is no party line vote on this effort. As such all members are requested to PLEASE PLEASE call the following members on the subcommittee requesting them to support Lofgren's recapture bill H.R.5882.
Majority Members (Democrats)
Member Name DC Phone
Luis V. Gutierrez (D-IL) 202-225-8203
Howard L. Berman (D-CA) 202-225-4695
Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX) 202-225-3816
Maxine Waters (D-CA) 202-225-2201
Bill Delahunt (D-MA) 202-225-3111
Linda T. Sanchez (D-CA) 202-225-6676
Artur Davis (D-AL) 202-225-2665
Keith Ellison (D-MN) 202-225-4755
Anthony Weiner (D-NY) 202-225-6616
Minority Members (Republicans)
Member Name DC Phone
Steve King (R-IA) [Ranking Member]202-225-4426
Elton Gallegly (R-CA) 202-225-5811
Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) 202-225-5431
Dan Lungren (R-CA) 202-225-5716
J. Randy Forbes (R-VA) 202-225-6365
Louie Gohmert (R-TX) 202-225-3035
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In Oppennheimer's reply to Ron Gotcher's question, he mentioned that the horizontal rule was set after he 'had consulation with the congress', so it's very unlikely to have any change to this rule till some legislation changes take place.
I agree with you 100%, this change was made by Congress in attempt to reduce the backlog.
Think about it in terms of Congress, it was under a lot of pressure from high skilled workers and from companies like Google and Bill gates who argued for more number of visas. No offense to any EB3 category, but we all know, EB2 are the ones which have earned a higher skilled education from this country.
(Now please don't start any debates on EB2 or EB3, I didn't make any distinctions and it has no relevance.)
For Congress to somehow act, they made the change in movement of visa numbers, and geared more towards EB1/EB2, to reduce the backlog among EB2 category. This will eventually lead to roll over of visa numbers from EB2 to EB3.
Advantage? High skilled workers who have attained a Masters degree from
U.S., now will see a reduce in backlog.
This recent change in the flow of visa numbers, acknowledges all these problems. We all know, who ever takes over the next presidential elections, will not issue something right away, it will take a few months.
This change buys time and greatly reduces the backlog among EB2, eventually for Eb3 as well. The new process makes much more sense and I don't think this change will revert to its original movement (back to vertical flow)
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I would suggest to everyone to pass this information to your freinds too. We need to do it on massive way.
Sending an email is not going to create any problem just a 2-3 minutes job.
I am sending to all my 40-60 friends.
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Everyone knows what the impact would be...no one coming up with the solutions or ready to fight.
Go BC Lions!
btw, I got this propaganda from the ruling party from back in British Columbia:
Large Surplus Builds Hospitals, Schools and Roads
July 11, 2007
B.C.'s Fiscal Year End Highlights:
Record budget surplus of $4.1 billion at fiscal year end allows for investments across B.C.
* Record $3.4 billion invested in building and upgrading schools, universities, colleges, hospitals, roads and bridges to improve services and meet the needs of a growing economy.
* $1 billion allocated to reducing B.C.'s total debt.
* B.C.'s economic growth, at 3.6% of real GDP, was second-highest in Canada and above the national average of 2.7%.
* Business investment grew by 9.5% and consumer spending, which accounts for about two-thirds of all economic activity in the province, grew by 5.3% in 2006.
* Third consecutive year B.C.'s Public Accounts received a clean audit opinion from the Office of the Auditor General.
VICTORIA � The BC Liberal government finished its fiscal year with a significant surplus, which helped fund a record investment in public infrastructure and lowered British Columbia�s debt, Finance Minister Carole Taylor announced with the release of the 2006/07 Public Accounts.
The audited financial statements show the Province of British Columbia ended the fiscal year with a surplus of $4.1 billion. The surplus, along with a drawdown of cash balances, allowed the Province to reduce debt by $1 billion and finance a record $3.4 billion investment in building and upgrading schools, universities, colleges, hospitals, roads and bridges to improve services and meet the needs of a growing economy.
�A big surplus means a big investment in our future,� said Taylor. �We are building health care facilities to meet the needs of an aging population, we are upgrading transportation networks to keep our economy moving, and we are expanding post-secondary spaces for our youth. Our surplus allows us to do this and still reduce B.C.�s debt.�
Taxpayer-supported capital spending increased to $3.4 billion in 2006/07, up $265 million compared to $3.1 billion in 2005/06. Over the past three years, the Province has delivered $8.8 billion in taxpayer-supported capital spending while simultaneously reducing debt.
�In 2006, the budget planned for debt to grow by $1.7 billion to help finance public building projects,� said Taylor. �Fortunately, we were able to use the larger-than-forecast surplus to both pay for these projects and pay down debt by $1 billion. Building our province and reducing debt are investments that will generate benefits for years to come.�
This is the third consecutive year the Public Accounts received a clean audit opinion from the Office of the Auditor General. The Public Accounts meet the standards of Generally Accepted Accounting Principles and fully consolidate information from school districts, universities, colleges and health authorities (SUCH sector) in the province�s reporting systems.
In addition to the Public Accounts, the Province also released its Ministerial Accountability Report, government's annual strategic plan report, and annual service plan reports for ministries and government agencies. The Ministerial Accountability Report details the fiscal and other accountability targets ministers have achieved. Service plan reports summarize the progress of individual ministries and agencies, as well as the government as a whole, in meeting the performance targets laid out at the beginning of each fiscal year.
And our current PM is a Sikh. That is why I am saying that MMS does not have spine. He does not have self respect. He is warming PM's chair until Yuvraj is ready. There is no use of good academic record if you are a shameless chaprasi.